Timeless Time

Q: If one experiences a collapse of the three times, would one receive the teaching as a pure teaching and be no different from the teacher and the taught? Does it mean that in the timeless time, one would be receiving the teachings from the teacher and one would be the same as the teachings and the taught at that time ?

R: In terms of this inseparability , at the time of attainment of the dharmakya, one sees the true nature of phenomena; there is the wisdom that sees things exactly as they are. There is also the wisdom that sees all the variety of things, seeing all beings and also seeing that they are in the state of delusion. This causes love for all beings, and due to that love and knowledge there arise the form kayas to help those beings and to teach them. So to say that the teacher, the pupils, and the teaching are inseparable is not correct.

In terms of the time, it’s timeless time or somethings called fourth time. If we don’t examine or analyze it, we think of past, present, and future. But in actual fact, times is just a fabrications of the mind. We say today is Sunday, or today is Tuesday. But if you ask, “what do you mean by Sunday?” there isn’t any such thing as a Sunday or a Tuesday. There isn’t time in this way.

If one realizes the true nature of phenomena exactly as it is, that means that one has reached the first bodhisattva level. With that realization, on will encounter the five definite qualities of the sambhogakaya; the teacher, the teaching, and so on. So one will be able to receive this through following the realization of the true nature of things exactly as it is. But one doesn’t particularly do that through time, and there isn’t really any definite kind of connection between time and realization. When one has realized timelessness, that means that one has realized the true nature of all phenomena, and then one will encounter these five qualities. But it is not particularly connected with the collapsing of the three times.

---- Thrangu Rinpoche, On Buddha Essence; A Commentary on Rangjung Dorje’s Treatise, page 95

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